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Sally Wong's avatar

Thank you for this beautiful piece of work. A perfectionist you sure are. And please no worries about LLM doing your writing for you!! Your limpid prose with occasional quirky humor is already your personal trademark no one can imitate or duplicate, let alone improvable by a machine.

I don't remember if I read mention of how historically 江, as in 长江 , also named Yangtze, rises at the Tibetan Plateau and flows 6,374 km, including the Dam Qu River which is the longest source of the Yangtze, in a generally easterly direction to the East China Sea. It gets to be called 江 for that reason. There is a romantic mystique to Yangtze as well because for millennia, the river has been used for water, irrigation, sanitation, transportation, industry, boundary-marking, and war.

In terms of man-made canal, another term frequently used to indicate it is not a natural waterway is 运河, or 運河 in Traditional Chinese, where the first character denotes the purpose of the man-made "river": for transport.

In terms of the character 川, the character since its first appearance is the drawing of flowing water, whereas 山 is the drawing of mountains. Chinese is a fascinating language in that sense because the characters all began as drawings. Of course they also went through many rounds of "evolutions", but the nature of their being drawings in the beginning has not changed.

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Debbie Liu's avatar

<<I initially really only set out to write a small article about .... and accidentally got shunted into a week-long research mission to understand Chinese historical river naming convention>>

haha we all do that! China is full of lots of rabbit holes to go down!

thanks for this excellent article. Always wondered what the difference was between 江and 河 - know I know. Also in Laoshan (shandong) there is 北九水 - I always wondered why it was called 水 . sorry to add a northern holdout - any ideas why? I've done a quick search and come up with nada.

Thank you for being so upfront about your research methods. I've come to the conclusion that using AI for research is legitimate, its just faster google, but very different from using AI to write, which is based on the stolen work of millions of writers, across time and space.

A really fascinating article. So by this logic, the origin of the folk saying which lends it self must have originated in the north, in the Yellow River basin!!

Oh, also, Colin Thubron's book on the Heilongjiang, "The Amur River", is fascinating!

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